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I'll get this outta the way right off - it may be a while until another LOST comes arond, a show that generated So much discussion and involvement. That's one of the things I miss the most about Lost. while it is fun to talk about other shows, usually there's only so much to talk about. To keep a discussion going, there simply needs to be more to talk about. LOST had all the elements to keep it going, with the top thre I would put as the mystery and intrigue, the characters and their relationships, and popularity.

I'm wondering if Fringe may be getting closer to these things - enough mystery to speculate and have crackpot theories at least. Plus, there are a few podcasts out there. I just noticed tha Jay and Jack just started covering Fringe in their LOST podcast. That may not be a reliable indicator as perhaps some podcasters would like to be the first one there in case it does take off.

So while I haven't even seen most of the Fringe episodes and ai didn't realize it was already in Season 4, this season has some pretty interesting things happening, and questions are being raised that aren't being answered right away.

Spoiler Alerts coming,

I caught the last few sodes from last season at the end of the summer, so I think I have the basic gist of the deal with the alternate universe, and Peter. He prevents Universe 2 from wiping out "Our" universe by getting innthe machine. But that throws him into the future, then he poofs out of existence. I actually can't remeber now what lead up to the poof, if he made it back to the present. But according to the pasty man with the hat (MIH - man n hat?), he erased Peter as he was no longer needed.

Was this the first we saw of MIH? He knows what's going on and has some control - but I didn't get the impression that he's from universe 2. He may not be human. so the current reality is one where he never existed, even though he was from the other universe. It was mentioned that the entire timeline was changed. But if theyre going with alternate universes, then this current one actually should be an alternate as well.

So what else has changed in this timeline? Walter was asking about his wife, I got the feeling that was different. And if Peter wasn't around, how did it come to be that they got Walter out of the institution to come work for Fringe division. This was season one stuff, but I can't remember how it all went down. It may have been the same if Peter wasn't there and opposing the idea. But now, with the help of Subject 9, Pete has proofed back into existence, and no one knows him, or remembers him. But you can't remember something that didn't happen. The writers are probably going with the changed timeline scenario, where when the past changes, it erases certain memories of certain people in the present. If that's how it's going to be, I'm hoping for more explanation. But I liked the way that they handled it in LOST, where Whatever Happened, Happened. And if something did get changed in the past, the universe course corrected and the end result was the same.

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Yes! Too much clutter is it. I feel like we were really invested in the first universe and grudgingly got to love the second...and they dropped a bomb and created a third reality. It is too much. 

Ah, thanks. Now, innthe revised version of the original universe, according to
Walter, when he brought Peter over he fell through the ice and died, something like that.

Another thing I've been confused about, in the alternate universe - in both scenarios with Peter, what did they think happened to him?

Wow, that was quite an interesting season 4 of FRiNGE!  I've been producing my own podcast devoted to FRiNGE, since before FRiNGE officially premiered on FOX.  It's FRINGEcasting WIth Wayne And Dan at http://MediaVoiceOvers.com/FRiNGE.  Fellow GSPN Community member Darrell Darnell also produces a FRiNGE podcast, The FRiNGE Podcast at TheFringePodcast.com.  I find it interesting that the top-2 FRiNGE podcasts are both created by GSPN Community Members.  

We have quality listeners *and* podcasters here. :) 

That is very cool indeed!

I totally enjoyed this season of Fringe.  Honestly, this could have been a Series finale for me.  However, I guess they have set up a new storyline to fulfill with the observers. :)

I like how they introduced yet another new twist on when the past gets altered but in the same timeline.Not unlike Back to the Future where Marty was being "erased from existence" - but Olivia gradually changed from one set of memories to the next - and this only happened to her!

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